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MagicMixture 31st Jan 2018, 8:00 AM edit delete
This is definitely one of the biggest things about Code: Lyoko that I wanted to explore. And when I started thinking about the time machine, I wondered if deaths all around the world are affected. 'Satellite' implies that the whole world goes back in time, and, let's face it, people around the world die every day. Does the time machine not affect them and people just drop dead for no reason? They die in a car crash, but then they're in their living room dead?

I'm sure there would be reports of multiple bizarre deaths that occurred at the same time in France alone. This bit got me thinking. What if the Lyoko Warriors aren't trying to prevent a death but a death specifically caused by XANA?

XANA is the wild card, the independent variable, the thing that must be stopped before a return in time can take place. XANA is the one that somehow prevents a death from being reversed. Not the supercomputer, not the time machine, but the virus itself.

This whole thought process sent me down a rabbit hole that I probably shouldn't discuss right now. But I want to know what your thoughts are about this.

I can't believe the first death happened on the first day of this month and it's finally being explained on the last day of the month. That's insane.


[A snapshot of the supercomputer rebooting.]
Taylor: Think of your brains as files on the supercomputer. The return to the past is like the computer suddenly shutting down then restarting.
[Snapshot of a peaceful city.]
Taylor: When the computer is up and running again, everything is back to the way it was before it shut down. No evidence of a XANA attack.
Taylor: All brain files are okay and in their original places.
[Snapshot of a computer interface. ID pictures of Jeremie, Yumi, Odd, and Ulrich line the top of the screen.]
Taylor: Because the four of you were scanned by the supercomputer, your memories are “recovered.”
Taylor: You remembered what happened before and “save” those memories.
[Snapshot of an open electronic folder labeled Noah's Ark. Inside are ID cards of the four Lyoko Warriors and five question marks. The question mark cards' names are scrambled.]
Taylor: Every living brain is brought back to their original point at the time you chose, with the addition of your PCs “recovering” memory.
[Snapshot of a car crash downtown.]
Taylor: Now if someone dies, they are brought back to their starting point as well, but they may feel some after effects from how they died. Kind of like phantom pain.
Taylor: But Mike was different. He was killed by XANA directly, allowing his brain to be ‘hacked’ and ‘corrupted.’ XANA tricks the computer into believing the brain was dead from the beginning.
[An error message on a computer screen.]
Taylor: The computer tries to recover the dead brain during the return trip, but all it can do is move the body to its starting point, so it looks like Mike just dropped dead.
Stein: . . . That’s insane.
Taylor: Yes, it is.
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Anvildude 31st Jan 2018, 3:10 PM edit delete reply
I recently read a Code:Lyoko fanfic that crossed over with Dr. Who- specifically due to the timey-wimey nature of the Return to the Past function. It had a... similar issue with things.

In that one, RttP straight up couldn't bring people back to life, because it wasn't time-travel, it was literally a matter re-set, that propagated at the speed of light in a bubble starting on the Supercomputer. This, of course, caused all sorts of issues with universe stability and such, but it also meant that people that died before the RttP, anywhere on the planet, dropped dead of no cause- just like you posited here.

It's certainly an interesting question. From everything we see in the show, the RttP isn't omnipotent, and so the question remains- where does the influence end? The planet? Because then there'd be some significant deviations in astronomical motion. The solar system, maybe? Just France?
Wildwolf42 31st Jan 2018, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
It would have to be everything in existence, because if it was any less things would seem to teleport around for no reason. If it was the planet, the planet would suddenly teleport, if it was the Solar System that would suddenly teleport, if it was just France then France would suddenly teleport, etc...
Anvildude 2nd Feb 2018, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
And that's what caught the Doctor's attention.
Cloy552 31st Jan 2018, 11:13 PM edit delete reply
Makes s3nse but does raise the question (at least for me) of what degree of separation count as Xana deaths.
MagicMixture 31st Jan 2018, 11:54 PM edit delete reply
That's fair. I would say that direct contact with whatever XANA's controlling is what would count as a XANA death. In addition to the possession, XANA picks the circumstances of the death that allow it to corrupt the brain.

"Access to brain granted under (X) circumstances."

Let's take the teddy bear incident. X = crushed by giant teddy bear. If the bear crushes you, XANA kills you. If the bear carelessly pushes a car that smashes into you and kills you, you avoid a XANA death.

For another example, let's do the incident in Log Book. X = death by chemical explosion. Even though the XANA-controlled bus is driving erratically, people will be brought back to life if they didn't die in a chemical explosion.

XANA is limited by its code, which requires specific commands. Why? There is an answer. :)

The characters won't know of this until later, so they'll assume that any death is irreversible for now.
Cloy552 1st Feb 2018, 2:03 PM edit delete reply
That makes sense. Also makes for a really horrible scenario of someone dying to unrelated causes and then Xana nuking the place and it getting rewound just before hitting the factory causing someone to just wake up and everyone is just dead.
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